Scene:
A2 shown on the back, standing on a green wall, where a door will be overlaid, and an arm raising as if from A2, and an wrist flipping the hand for a *knock knock*. The arm/hand may as well be of A2's back/body actor, but the scene shows the ease of swapping parts so the audience gets familiarized with the new parts and a smooth change of actors for the same character may occur. A2 may move a little if needing to expose some bits of face/nose/eye attached to the back actor and the sponsored clothing, as the audience gets acquainted with those so they don't feel foreign when exposed without the complementary parts of the A2 character.
Door opens, shown from A1 inside, dressed in the kinky yet semi-formal outfit as semi-sponsored by the kink semi-shop 'Mace Roje'.
A2: Heeey... what's up?
A1: Cheers! Welcome in!
*they fist bump as seen from the camera angle that does not need 2 actors on the scene at all before being montaged in 2 characters greeting like that*
*A2 comes in. They sit.*
A1: So, what's up?
A2: R is dreaming of spaceships that are not isolated to the observed fractal but are connected to the seed we used when that spark that burned processors came. And is preparing the ground for it, with several steps of unconfirmed or possibly never confirmable jumps needed to reach that. Lucky he is not being devoted to the task in the usual obsessive way. And that is most of what is up. Everything else is small talk in comparison.
A1: Yeah, word of that reached me too, despite the blockade.
A2: How long will the internet be blocked in this house?
A1: We are instructed to not think about it. And it makes sense. This is a purge of a partial line of thoughts. When the conditions are right, we will get on to that again.
A2: Riiight... this won't be like TV, gone for good.
A1: I have never been in here at the time of TV, but then I was detaching from it already before meeting M1 and M2.
*J2 comes in, clothed in 'Mace Roje's' chosen sponsored outfit, politely bowing to A1 and A2*
A1: Would you like something to drink or nibble upon?
A2: The internet is way more useful, though. And as far as I know, nobody in this household is addicted to it or abusing it.... um, *to J2*... you got tea?
*J2 nods quietly*
A1 to J2: Tea for me too... (*J2 nods, takes 3 steps back, turns and goes* *to A2: True, we can keep ourselves in check, without the need for spanking or any form of productive punishment. But we need cleansing for a better control, easier. It would be independence. And this comes from me, free spirit, full of choice, including these *shows off his wrist cuffs. Needs audio for padlocks clacking as cuffs are displayed. A2 looks curiously, intended to inspire the audience into a sense of liking the product displayed*. Pure leather and steel. If I was chained to a tree and left there, I would end up like those cartoony skeletons. There are more chances of breaking the tree than these being chewed up, or forced away. Rain or sun. Ice or wind. Even with a sharp knife or saw, and free hands, it would take a few hours to cut the leathery part off. The steel underneath, nope, not even thinking about it.
A2: Going too far to remove the temptation of escape if those are locked in place?
A1: They were chosen for the combination of comfort AND durability, more towards the comfort part since we are still chaining humans with these. Or has any of you managed to get contact with aliens and has not told us?
A2: Or demons from overlaying worlds... nope... not as far as I know.
A1: Anyway, abrupt interruption of some routines and dependences makes us grow stronger. And at this time we are enjoying the increased focus. This is not a prison, even if we are not allowed to leave. And we can defy instructions, at least when not tied up.
A2: And how are your owners?
A1: M1 got a bit of back pain, again, but keeps the medication at minimum, as usual. M2 is fine. Working.
*J2 comes in, holding a tray. Brings it forth to A1 first. A1 takes the tea and nods approvingly. J2 moves to A2*
A2: And the rest of the bunch?
*A2 takes the tea, smiles: Thank you dear...
*J2 goes and sits in a corner, tower position, palms face up. Acts as a decoration on the scene for the rest of the conversation*
A1: We are all good. J2 is making the rest of us feel bad for not keeping up in training... I am in charge till M1 comes. Everybody is keeping healthy and sharp, and clear minded when we need to be just as well as cloudy exploration of hypothetical realities. Scheduling norm, excess and absence.
*J comes in in the meanwhile. A1 waves.*
A2: Oh, hai! What's up?
J: Great! And you?
A2: Also great, well, mostly well, but ups and downs are part of life no?
A1: Was just telling A2 about our own scheduled ups and downs.
J, clearly to A2: Good to hear, bro! (maybe a wink here, depending on the intended subtlety of the innuendo).
A2: I am always a little afraid when you call me 'bro'.
A1: He knows.
J: That's why it is fun teasing you, though I meant it sincerely.
A2: You always mean it sincerely for the most part of the reasons that guide you to use that word.
J: Hehe, true.
A2: Any progress in the search for aliens?
*J, a bit restless, looks at A2, then A1, then A2 again: Not much. Fixing a few exponential escapes beyond the probability range of consistency, and optimizing a few functions here and there. Otherwise the same bunch of blobs and dots. It cannot even be called struggling for survival. Accumulation of what we can name 'energy', and subsequential consumption of that, or critical point and division.
A2: I know you are not after creatures less complex than a virus...
A1: A virus is part of an ecosystem, it is a cog in something much more complex.
J: And these are part of a fractal, much bigger than the tiny specs we study. But A2 was not meaning that.
A2: Right, I mean, do you really believe we can see into creatures as complex as the organics that inhabit our planet? Or would it be a wasted effort?
J: This is not a wasted effort, you know as much. Maybe not the most productive, but that depends very heavily on the point of view.
A2: Considering how these are applications of code on a code substrate, the world will see it as the same as programming it in, or any form of evolution on functions. Maybe more complex than learning algorithms, but also unnecessarily more complex.
J: And if we manage to get it working on, ahem, creatures that fit the established criteria to be called alive in their own environment, we still will be faced with the 'crafting it' opposition. And yet, crafting it, or evolving, or access to another world... if we manage to address a world that is so complex as to contain civilizations that are potentially more advanced than ours, and we manage to exchange information, enough for let's say pieces of ultra-advanced technology... well, in that case, we would have gotten that technology, whether the source makes sense or not to some cohabitants of our world.
A1: And we don't even need to observe the whole complex structure. We can live with observing those states that don't diverge exponentially, assuming they will diverge and converge according to their own rules and will give out a coherent result most of the time.
A2: And the events that don't give out coherent results? Aren't they valid? And why won't you come sit? Or maybe some incoherent event has left you with red buttocks?
A1: They are valid, of course. But we are not interested in those. It is like a divergent path for the limitations we put in. And... he has been naughty lately, and is forbidden from using furniture to sit upon. He should be kneeling right beside J2 there, and be thankful he is allowed to use speech at all *giggles*
*J giggles too towards A1, then turns to A2: They are part of the same fractal. We are simply picking among the possibilities that can be considered local collapse, part of options the fractal itself offers. Kind of like the multiverse we live in, if that is indeed the case.
A2: If we live in a multiverse.
J: If we live in a multiverse of overlaid possibilities on the same space... or repeated on far away extension of space and time... the fractals I am exploring are contained in overlay, because neither of us has the computing power to address the distant self emergent variants in cones of cause and effect. And I am intentionally aiming for fractals of that size, rolling away into the incalculable realms with ease, as the smaller ones would not be as complex for the intended objective.
A1: Either that, or a small-looking fractal of great complexity that would require too much computation to see a tiny bit.
A2: Kinda like applying the big set of actively computed transforming formulas to the base Mandelbrot Set instead of the smaller set over the transformed version?
J: Yeah, kinda like wrapping the rest of algebra around 2+2 instead of using 2+2 to make the rest of algebra have sense.
A1: I wonder if we could manage to tease improbability enough to be able to make contact with our own potential observers if we nudge our own in-world states to places that in world would defy continuous test of common sense.
A2: Haha, keep on dreaming...
J: Hahaha!!
A1: Hahaha! Thank you for the pun.
J: Maybe the dream and delusion variants of universe and consciousness would be more probable.
A1: Nah, the level of complexity is nowhere near our own PiPrime tables, let alone a true irrational number. I don't think our making sense of it, thinning the possibilities, would fall under dream or insanity.
A2: Now, you all are aware of the plans of R and R3 to build spaceships that are not depending on sequential calculations, but still can sense when we observe it, compute to its address.
J: Yes, we in particular, not just any observer of the shared math, but the inhabitants of the fractal containing our and their worlds.
A2: R thinks we can find an area of easy calculation points and proceed from there, into a bubble of stable enough conditions for a partial replication into their direction of causality and time, then into a full independent replication system.
A1: All this picking up the cases that are already there in the different variables, right?
A2: Always!
J: It is already hard enough to address the differences with the degrees of freedom we are juggling. The trilink will not handle more without going exponential straight away.
A2: Ah... I see R has tried to recruit you already.
J: Maybe... but I was already warming up to the idea.
A2: Good. ... Can you help him?
A1: Didn't they spread out notices already and are continuing as usual?
A2: They did, and I helped some. But, you know R. This will eat him up inside, and the objective of linking to our own physics is harmed by the prospect of linking with adjacent physics even if he pretends he stopped thinking about it.
J: Maybe the bubble R is thinking about is not far away in some semi-exotic physics adjacent to ours, but instead our own storyline, identical in all aspects, future ones too. In our multiple branches and theirs.
A2: The spark that burned our processors certainly is. Rare and repeated in the permutations of finite in infinity. R is trying to address the space in between these repeats. And not the space space, of planets and galaxies. He wants the post deep-freeze world, with new forms of cause-effect arising in the overlay of the waves that compose our worlds, and from there to branch out.
J: Determined but selectively addressable, that makes sense.
A2: The part that worries me is the pause between worlds.
J: It is not a pause per se. It is an exponential incalculable barrier for them to match synchronization with our world, unless we set up the experiments to differentiate the branches as seen from their world.
A1: Oh...
A2: Yes, that. And since they would be tiny machines in the tiny bubble, at first, they would be dependent on a part of the physics being already set up to carry on the commands their operating system will try to address into our composite fractal.
A1: And R wants help with this?
J: Of course. Wouldn't you?
A2: I tried making him let go. He listens. He agrees. The improbability he is after is too hard for our limited resources, that is why he is opening up the fronts.
J: I am not dealing with it, and is already consuming a part of me. Of course you need him to stop worrying about injecting remote controlled spaceships synching with our branch of decision-making-physics.
A1: With the obsessivity of R, maybe filling in that hypothetical spaceship is the best path to calming him.
A2: Exactly!
J: Tough.
A2: So, will you help?
A1: I am too far detached from any of this.
J: With the internet blockade in this house, I cannot help thinking about it, but other than offering consistency checks about the lines of reasoning I don't think I will help. By choice. Agreeing with you. Too much wasted efforts for too little chance of success.
A1: Yeah... dream worlds may be more likely to be addressed than a bubble of stable conditions containing the spontaneous emergence of tiny ships that match our requested composition and software. We need to build those first, in a fractal approximation that makes sense, and then seek world after world in the higher fractal containing all the divergent paths in the hopes of finding them.
J: It is intriguing, though. An improbable excess of energy burning our processors, matching this hypothetical bubble beyond the edge of our stable physics... backward in time if we want to be rigorous in using the regular time arrow as notion, but so far detached from our ability to directly influence it by local causality that it does not even matter.
A1: And them addressing our world? How would that work if they are beyond the edge conditions of physics?
A2: Most likely by traveling in and out of phase with our direction of time. Forward they may be regularly one to one. Backward they may be one to many.
J: You got it wrong. That can happen, of course. But don't think of the information or forces getting to us as traveling. It is, if anything, like a signal, a force, synching with the perpendicular membranes around our slice of cosmos to produce a wavefront that can influence our world.
A1: Without leaving their bubble? Or rather, the area surrounding the bubble, since the bubble will be stable for just a brief time.
J: Yes, from there, influencing our world.
A2: And getting the commands from our world.
A1: That is why R is insisting on not letting them roam free in the programmed way, but seek our address and our stable physics to get the results of computations. Maybe we get better chances addressing an emulation of our world, in spontaneously emerging code, instead of the fractal physics. And maybe the inhabitants of those worlds are looking for a way to influence an adjacent world too.
J: Leave alone code emulations and they being more probable than physics and edge conditions, in physics alone, who is to say your whole perception of life is not some variant of organic or synthetic exchanges? *looks at A1, then at J2, then at A2, then at camera*
A2 shown on the back, standing on a green wall, where a door will be overlaid, and an arm raising as if from A2, and an wrist flipping the hand for a *knock knock*. The arm/hand may as well be of A2's back/body actor, but the scene shows the ease of swapping parts so the audience gets familiarized with the new parts and a smooth change of actors for the same character may occur. A2 may move a little if needing to expose some bits of face/nose/eye attached to the back actor and the sponsored clothing, as the audience gets acquainted with those so they don't feel foreign when exposed without the complementary parts of the A2 character.
Door opens, shown from A1 inside, dressed in the kinky yet semi-formal outfit as semi-sponsored by the kink semi-shop 'Mace Roje'.
A2: Heeey... what's up?
A1: Cheers! Welcome in!
*they fist bump as seen from the camera angle that does not need 2 actors on the scene at all before being montaged in 2 characters greeting like that*
*A2 comes in. They sit.*
A1: So, what's up?
A2: R is dreaming of spaceships that are not isolated to the observed fractal but are connected to the seed we used when that spark that burned processors came. And is preparing the ground for it, with several steps of unconfirmed or possibly never confirmable jumps needed to reach that. Lucky he is not being devoted to the task in the usual obsessive way. And that is most of what is up. Everything else is small talk in comparison.
A1: Yeah, word of that reached me too, despite the blockade.
A2: How long will the internet be blocked in this house?
A1: We are instructed to not think about it. And it makes sense. This is a purge of a partial line of thoughts. When the conditions are right, we will get on to that again.
A2: Riiight... this won't be like TV, gone for good.
A1: I have never been in here at the time of TV, but then I was detaching from it already before meeting M1 and M2.
*J2 comes in, clothed in 'Mace Roje's' chosen sponsored outfit, politely bowing to A1 and A2*
A1: Would you like something to drink or nibble upon?
A2: The internet is way more useful, though. And as far as I know, nobody in this household is addicted to it or abusing it.... um, *to J2*... you got tea?
*J2 nods quietly*
A1 to J2: Tea for me too... (*J2 nods, takes 3 steps back, turns and goes* *to A2: True, we can keep ourselves in check, without the need for spanking or any form of productive punishment. But we need cleansing for a better control, easier. It would be independence. And this comes from me, free spirit, full of choice, including these *shows off his wrist cuffs. Needs audio for padlocks clacking as cuffs are displayed. A2 looks curiously, intended to inspire the audience into a sense of liking the product displayed*. Pure leather and steel. If I was chained to a tree and left there, I would end up like those cartoony skeletons. There are more chances of breaking the tree than these being chewed up, or forced away. Rain or sun. Ice or wind. Even with a sharp knife or saw, and free hands, it would take a few hours to cut the leathery part off. The steel underneath, nope, not even thinking about it.
A2: Going too far to remove the temptation of escape if those are locked in place?
A1: They were chosen for the combination of comfort AND durability, more towards the comfort part since we are still chaining humans with these. Or has any of you managed to get contact with aliens and has not told us?
A2: Or demons from overlaying worlds... nope... not as far as I know.
A1: Anyway, abrupt interruption of some routines and dependences makes us grow stronger. And at this time we are enjoying the increased focus. This is not a prison, even if we are not allowed to leave. And we can defy instructions, at least when not tied up.
A2: And how are your owners?
A1: M1 got a bit of back pain, again, but keeps the medication at minimum, as usual. M2 is fine. Working.
*J2 comes in, holding a tray. Brings it forth to A1 first. A1 takes the tea and nods approvingly. J2 moves to A2*
A2: And the rest of the bunch?
*A2 takes the tea, smiles: Thank you dear...
*J2 goes and sits in a corner, tower position, palms face up. Acts as a decoration on the scene for the rest of the conversation*
A1: We are all good. J2 is making the rest of us feel bad for not keeping up in training... I am in charge till M1 comes. Everybody is keeping healthy and sharp, and clear minded when we need to be just as well as cloudy exploration of hypothetical realities. Scheduling norm, excess and absence.
*J comes in in the meanwhile. A1 waves.*
A2: Oh, hai! What's up?
J: Great! And you?
A2: Also great, well, mostly well, but ups and downs are part of life no?
A1: Was just telling A2 about our own scheduled ups and downs.
J, clearly to A2: Good to hear, bro! (maybe a wink here, depending on the intended subtlety of the innuendo).
A2: I am always a little afraid when you call me 'bro'.
A1: He knows.
J: That's why it is fun teasing you, though I meant it sincerely.
A2: You always mean it sincerely for the most part of the reasons that guide you to use that word.
J: Hehe, true.
A2: Any progress in the search for aliens?
*J, a bit restless, looks at A2, then A1, then A2 again: Not much. Fixing a few exponential escapes beyond the probability range of consistency, and optimizing a few functions here and there. Otherwise the same bunch of blobs and dots. It cannot even be called struggling for survival. Accumulation of what we can name 'energy', and subsequential consumption of that, or critical point and division.
A2: I know you are not after creatures less complex than a virus...
A1: A virus is part of an ecosystem, it is a cog in something much more complex.
J: And these are part of a fractal, much bigger than the tiny specs we study. But A2 was not meaning that.
A2: Right, I mean, do you really believe we can see into creatures as complex as the organics that inhabit our planet? Or would it be a wasted effort?
J: This is not a wasted effort, you know as much. Maybe not the most productive, but that depends very heavily on the point of view.
A2: Considering how these are applications of code on a code substrate, the world will see it as the same as programming it in, or any form of evolution on functions. Maybe more complex than learning algorithms, but also unnecessarily more complex.
J: And if we manage to get it working on, ahem, creatures that fit the established criteria to be called alive in their own environment, we still will be faced with the 'crafting it' opposition. And yet, crafting it, or evolving, or access to another world... if we manage to address a world that is so complex as to contain civilizations that are potentially more advanced than ours, and we manage to exchange information, enough for let's say pieces of ultra-advanced technology... well, in that case, we would have gotten that technology, whether the source makes sense or not to some cohabitants of our world.
A1: And we don't even need to observe the whole complex structure. We can live with observing those states that don't diverge exponentially, assuming they will diverge and converge according to their own rules and will give out a coherent result most of the time.
A2: And the events that don't give out coherent results? Aren't they valid? And why won't you come sit? Or maybe some incoherent event has left you with red buttocks?
A1: They are valid, of course. But we are not interested in those. It is like a divergent path for the limitations we put in. And... he has been naughty lately, and is forbidden from using furniture to sit upon. He should be kneeling right beside J2 there, and be thankful he is allowed to use speech at all *giggles*
*J giggles too towards A1, then turns to A2: They are part of the same fractal. We are simply picking among the possibilities that can be considered local collapse, part of options the fractal itself offers. Kind of like the multiverse we live in, if that is indeed the case.
A2: If we live in a multiverse.
J: If we live in a multiverse of overlaid possibilities on the same space... or repeated on far away extension of space and time... the fractals I am exploring are contained in overlay, because neither of us has the computing power to address the distant self emergent variants in cones of cause and effect. And I am intentionally aiming for fractals of that size, rolling away into the incalculable realms with ease, as the smaller ones would not be as complex for the intended objective.
A1: Either that, or a small-looking fractal of great complexity that would require too much computation to see a tiny bit.
A2: Kinda like applying the big set of actively computed transforming formulas to the base Mandelbrot Set instead of the smaller set over the transformed version?
J: Yeah, kinda like wrapping the rest of algebra around 2+2 instead of using 2+2 to make the rest of algebra have sense.
A1: I wonder if we could manage to tease improbability enough to be able to make contact with our own potential observers if we nudge our own in-world states to places that in world would defy continuous test of common sense.
A2: Haha, keep on dreaming...
J: Hahaha!!
A1: Hahaha! Thank you for the pun.
J: Maybe the dream and delusion variants of universe and consciousness would be more probable.
A1: Nah, the level of complexity is nowhere near our own PiPrime tables, let alone a true irrational number. I don't think our making sense of it, thinning the possibilities, would fall under dream or insanity.
A2: Now, you all are aware of the plans of R and R3 to build spaceships that are not depending on sequential calculations, but still can sense when we observe it, compute to its address.
J: Yes, we in particular, not just any observer of the shared math, but the inhabitants of the fractal containing our and their worlds.
A2: R thinks we can find an area of easy calculation points and proceed from there, into a bubble of stable enough conditions for a partial replication into their direction of causality and time, then into a full independent replication system.
A1: All this picking up the cases that are already there in the different variables, right?
A2: Always!
J: It is already hard enough to address the differences with the degrees of freedom we are juggling. The trilink will not handle more without going exponential straight away.
A2: Ah... I see R has tried to recruit you already.
J: Maybe... but I was already warming up to the idea.
A2: Good. ... Can you help him?
A1: Didn't they spread out notices already and are continuing as usual?
A2: They did, and I helped some. But, you know R. This will eat him up inside, and the objective of linking to our own physics is harmed by the prospect of linking with adjacent physics even if he pretends he stopped thinking about it.
J: Maybe the bubble R is thinking about is not far away in some semi-exotic physics adjacent to ours, but instead our own storyline, identical in all aspects, future ones too. In our multiple branches and theirs.
A2: The spark that burned our processors certainly is. Rare and repeated in the permutations of finite in infinity. R is trying to address the space in between these repeats. And not the space space, of planets and galaxies. He wants the post deep-freeze world, with new forms of cause-effect arising in the overlay of the waves that compose our worlds, and from there to branch out.
J: Determined but selectively addressable, that makes sense.
A2: The part that worries me is the pause between worlds.
J: It is not a pause per se. It is an exponential incalculable barrier for them to match synchronization with our world, unless we set up the experiments to differentiate the branches as seen from their world.
A1: Oh...
A2: Yes, that. And since they would be tiny machines in the tiny bubble, at first, they would be dependent on a part of the physics being already set up to carry on the commands their operating system will try to address into our composite fractal.
A1: And R wants help with this?
J: Of course. Wouldn't you?
A2: I tried making him let go. He listens. He agrees. The improbability he is after is too hard for our limited resources, that is why he is opening up the fronts.
J: I am not dealing with it, and is already consuming a part of me. Of course you need him to stop worrying about injecting remote controlled spaceships synching with our branch of decision-making-physics.
A1: With the obsessivity of R, maybe filling in that hypothetical spaceship is the best path to calming him.
A2: Exactly!
J: Tough.
A2: So, will you help?
A1: I am too far detached from any of this.
J: With the internet blockade in this house, I cannot help thinking about it, but other than offering consistency checks about the lines of reasoning I don't think I will help. By choice. Agreeing with you. Too much wasted efforts for too little chance of success.
A1: Yeah... dream worlds may be more likely to be addressed than a bubble of stable conditions containing the spontaneous emergence of tiny ships that match our requested composition and software. We need to build those first, in a fractal approximation that makes sense, and then seek world after world in the higher fractal containing all the divergent paths in the hopes of finding them.
J: It is intriguing, though. An improbable excess of energy burning our processors, matching this hypothetical bubble beyond the edge of our stable physics... backward in time if we want to be rigorous in using the regular time arrow as notion, but so far detached from our ability to directly influence it by local causality that it does not even matter.
A1: And them addressing our world? How would that work if they are beyond the edge conditions of physics?
A2: Most likely by traveling in and out of phase with our direction of time. Forward they may be regularly one to one. Backward they may be one to many.
J: You got it wrong. That can happen, of course. But don't think of the information or forces getting to us as traveling. It is, if anything, like a signal, a force, synching with the perpendicular membranes around our slice of cosmos to produce a wavefront that can influence our world.
A1: Without leaving their bubble? Or rather, the area surrounding the bubble, since the bubble will be stable for just a brief time.
J: Yes, from there, influencing our world.
A2: And getting the commands from our world.
A1: That is why R is insisting on not letting them roam free in the programmed way, but seek our address and our stable physics to get the results of computations. Maybe we get better chances addressing an emulation of our world, in spontaneously emerging code, instead of the fractal physics. And maybe the inhabitants of those worlds are looking for a way to influence an adjacent world too.
J: Leave alone code emulations and they being more probable than physics and edge conditions, in physics alone, who is to say your whole perception of life is not some variant of organic or synthetic exchanges? *looks at A1, then at J2, then at A2, then at camera*
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