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X: What if the world has already ended?
Y: You mean it does not matter the grand scheme of things, only the here and now?
X: Yeah, like all the fractal, all the physics, all the gods, puf, gone, always existed yeah *vigorous nodding* but all the omnipotence, determinism and even different choice determinism, gone, also as if it never existed. A frozen snap, without perception. So all there matters is the present, and that shackles any survivor to this shared reality...
Y: Are you trying to convince me or yourself?
X: Does infinity exist?
Y nods*
X: Can it truly be contained in a dimensional fold?
Y ... thinks about it ... : in a sense... I mean, for our practical purposes we assume we can contain and fold it.
X: But we are only operating on a narrow scope...
Y: And we assume it goes all the way around, infinitely repeating for what our formulas care. It is just an integer counting one more, which we can subtract if needed.
X: What if the parts ignored by the formula interact with the maths around?
Y: We have already discussed introduction of cause-effect as a new dimension.
X: I am not talking about just adjacent structures. I am talking about influencing physics when handling physics fractals.
Y: Materializing objects?
X: Not that extreme, usually, but maybe materializing information through a well coordinated glitch. A first cause, according to lower dimension cause-effect, still included in the bigger fractal. Repeatable or unique.
Y: Like, how?
X: Like echo to a yell you have not made yet.
Y: Is that what you and Z talk about when not *coughs* ?
X: Among other things.
Y: This does sound crazy, you know.
X: Craze is part of the possible states of the world arising from dust, and orders of magnitude more probable than the external reality we assume from physics, or the implausible perfection of a multiverse crystal, let alone a balanced one with a perfect single line of cause and effect.
Y: Please don't go again talking about recursive heaven-hell paradoxes.
X: Interpretation of reality is more likely than reality based on a deterministic insta-world that may as well have never existed.
Y: Why do you even want to know, then?
X grins*
Scene020:
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X: What if 4+4 does not equal 8?
Y throws slipper at X, misses*
X: I am not serious, but, hear me out
Y: ...
X: All of Jack's experiments, and their realtime inconsistency. What if that code resonates with our cosmos and gives the alternate I/O?
Y: Don't give it more differentiated input, and you will get consistent output.
X: Yeah, I can think like that, and still wonder if formula + computer + physics + observer give that interpretation because of all the components...
Y interrupting: Of course it is because of all the components. Take one away and...
X interrupting: All those interlinked. Change one, and maybe 2+2 no longer equals 4?
Y throws the other slipper at X. X ducks*
Y: I'd say go fuck yourself, but maybe go fuck Jack instead.
X: I'd have to ask permission to do that, so, fuka mea, easier...
*Y replies with an ugly face of scorn*
X continues absent minded: Like 5+4-4, a temporary result within the emergent time, and only observable along that, not in clean precalculations...
Y: Whateva...
Scene021
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X: What if on higher dimensions there are beings that can handle our whole multiverse with all its beings and histories like I'm handling this? (http://www.trainahead.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/NEW-SPIKY-BALL-%C3%987-480-X-270.jpg)
Y: And interact with the underlying layers?
X: Maybe create a copy from the perfect observable-only fractal, then interact with it...
Y: Hmmm... they can exist, but...
*X throws the ball in the air and catches it again*
. .. .
X: What would we be to them?
Y: Any civilization advanced enough...
X, interrupting: No, WE, to them... ants? combinations of disposable arrangements of emergent data? something to save? to judge?
Y: You are becoming a bad influence, you know?
X: Glad to help...
Y: pffff
_________________
X: What if the world has already ended?
Y: You mean it does not matter the grand scheme of things, only the here and now?
X: Yeah, like all the fractal, all the physics, all the gods, puf, gone, always existed yeah *vigorous nodding* but all the omnipotence, determinism and even different choice determinism, gone, also as if it never existed. A frozen snap, without perception. So all there matters is the present, and that shackles any survivor to this shared reality...
Y: Are you trying to convince me or yourself?
X: Does infinity exist?
Y nods*
X: Can it truly be contained in a dimensional fold?
Y ... thinks about it ... : in a sense... I mean, for our practical purposes we assume we can contain and fold it.
X: But we are only operating on a narrow scope...
Y: And we assume it goes all the way around, infinitely repeating for what our formulas care. It is just an integer counting one more, which we can subtract if needed.
X: What if the parts ignored by the formula interact with the maths around?
Y: We have already discussed introduction of cause-effect as a new dimension.
X: I am not talking about just adjacent structures. I am talking about influencing physics when handling physics fractals.
Y: Materializing objects?
X: Not that extreme, usually, but maybe materializing information through a well coordinated glitch. A first cause, according to lower dimension cause-effect, still included in the bigger fractal. Repeatable or unique.
Y: Like, how?
X: Like echo to a yell you have not made yet.
Y: Is that what you and Z talk about when not *coughs* ?
X: Among other things.
Y: This does sound crazy, you know.
X: Craze is part of the possible states of the world arising from dust, and orders of magnitude more probable than the external reality we assume from physics, or the implausible perfection of a multiverse crystal, let alone a balanced one with a perfect single line of cause and effect.
Y: Please don't go again talking about recursive heaven-hell paradoxes.
X: Interpretation of reality is more likely than reality based on a deterministic insta-world that may as well have never existed.
Y: Why do you even want to know, then?
X grins*
Scene020:
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X: What if 4+4 does not equal 8?
Y throws slipper at X, misses*
X: I am not serious, but, hear me out
Y: ...
X: All of Jack's experiments, and their realtime inconsistency. What if that code resonates with our cosmos and gives the alternate I/O?
Y: Don't give it more differentiated input, and you will get consistent output.
X: Yeah, I can think like that, and still wonder if formula + computer + physics + observer give that interpretation because of all the components...
Y interrupting: Of course it is because of all the components. Take one away and...
X interrupting: All those interlinked. Change one, and maybe 2+2 no longer equals 4?
Y throws the other slipper at X. X ducks*
Y: I'd say go fuck yourself, but maybe go fuck Jack instead.
X: I'd have to ask permission to do that, so, fuka mea, easier...
*Y replies with an ugly face of scorn*
X continues absent minded: Like 5+4-4, a temporary result within the emergent time, and only observable along that, not in clean precalculations...
Y: Whateva...
Scene021
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X: What if on higher dimensions there are beings that can handle our whole multiverse with all its beings and histories like I'm handling this? (http://www.trainahead.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/NEW-SPIKY-BALL-%C3%987-480-X-270.jpg)
Y: And interact with the underlying layers?
X: Maybe create a copy from the perfect observable-only fractal, then interact with it...
Y: Hmmm... they can exist, but...
*X throws the ball in the air and catches it again*
. .. .
X: What would we be to them?
Y: Any civilization advanced enough...
X, interrupting: No, WE, to them... ants? combinations of disposable arrangements of emergent data? something to save? to judge?
Y: You are becoming a bad influence, you know?
X: Glad to help...
Y: pffff
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